• Do you hate being stuck in the friend zone?
• Do you wish you could have more control over your sexual relationships?
• Wouldn’t you rather have women chasing you?

On July 11th, in the afternoon, Ronald Lee, lead Attraction (Dating) Coach for Man Meets Woman, shares his higher ideals on meeting, attracting and seducing women for sexually charged, mutually fulfilling dating and relationships.

During this discussion, he will present an overview of a Model of Advanced Seduction, a series of concepts that you need to create sexual intimacy with women.

Some of the points that will be covered includes how to approach and meet women from an authentic and genuine place, how mutual admiration and chemistry must be present starting from before you meet her, how seduction is not a bag of tricks but a way of understanding your relationship with yourself and knowing your life purpose, and to recognize how women hold on to their dreams of being swept off their feet for fairy tale romances.

You will learn about connection and creating sexual chemistry with women to bring them down the seduction process, all from your genuine and authentic self.

Both Men and Women are invited. This talk is directed to men, however men and women are welcome as after the talk we will be walking around the corner to Tinseltown for drinks, food, and conversation.

Best,

Ronald Lee
www.manmeetswoman.com
778-999-5094 coach@manmeetswoman.com
…follow me on twitter! http://twitter.com/Ro…

Usually when I talk about seduction, I start off by saying, “I believe I can seduce anyone. But I can tell you in reality that is far from the case (and then explain the mindset of the seductive character vs. those who are not)”.

Unfortunately, at last Sunday’s Let’s Talk About Sex: Getting Some panel discussion where we were fortunate to have Vancouver sex experts Jennifer Skrukwa of Libido Events, Dr. Pega Ren of Smart Sex Talk and Ryann Rain of Stiletto Storm (I, Ronald Lee moderated), I only able to get out the “I believe I can seduce anyone” before I was interrupted by the panelists in a move that pretty much set the tone for the entire event.

The idea for the topic came about from the observation that when sex coaches get together, it’s usually to discuss the topic of sex. Having better sex, a special new technique or toy, etc. There hasn’t been a discussion about actually how to initiate sex, the “Getting Some” and seduction part of the dating relationship that I had heard of. Thus, understanding that this is a top of mind question for many men, I threw the event together very quickly.

What surprised me was that prior to the event we had more women than men RSVP and at one point I was concerned that there might have been too many women attending. But on the on the day, the audience was comprised of 90% men, who all came keen to learn and with hungry ears.

The event started a whole 20 minutes late (note to self, and to all of you, no more late starts!) went for over an hour and a half and more than half the men stayed after the event for a discussion that proved to be as interesting and enlightening as the panel discussion itself.

In this review, I’ll share the audience feedback and follow with my own feedback.

Audience Feedback

First, let’s start with the good. I have complete respect for what the panelists do, and the men did get some good tips from them here and there.

But for the majority of the men, they felt a disconnect between them and the panelists to their (the audience’s) right. Their main complaint was the women did not understand what’s going on for a man who doesn’t know how become intimate with women.

In fact, several of the men felt the right side was “intolerant” while others didn’t feel listened to, rather it seemed like the women were pushing an agenda, lecturing about how they wanted to be treated, rather than address the topic at hand. Several others felt that the panelists were only slightly a little too feministic  for the topic and the room.

The men unanimously disapproved about how the discussion went off topic and into too much debate about the pick up artist community and it quickly became apparent to them that these women didn’t really know about the pick up artist community and had not read “The Game” (Neil Strauss, 2005).

One audience member wrote in his feedback form “didn’t like the debating of pickup community where panelists are not knowledgeable of the topic”.

Was it a case of a very polar and biased group of men? Certainly not, I’ve been in rooms where there were blatantly hurt men and women haters and these men were not those. We actively screen men like that out of our circle  (and there are groups of men like that in Vancouver, believe me) and our guys tend to be wholesome guys, genuinely together. It’s fair they would expect to come to an event and actually get what the event promised.

Overall, the men were generally displeased with the event, with a minority of men who did get something out of it.

My (Ronald’s) Feedback

As moderator of the event, I was in the precarious position of seeing the look of confusion, hope, and disappointment on the men’s faces as the questions they asked went unanswered.

I tried to setup the event by asking the panel why, despite that our sexual attitudes have changed so much over recent years and society has become freer and more relaxed about the topic, is it that North American men have so much trouble dating and initiating sex.

Before I could finish the question, one of the sex coaches started a debate about sex in media.

Alright.

Questions from the audience about what men could do better to make the right moves also went unanswered, thus I tried to participate in the panel to attempt to give the men the insight they were looking for.

“Tried” being the key word as, however, much like the opening statement at the top of this review, I was never allowed to fully form a complete thought as I was interrupted and heckled…by the panelists on the right (the lone panelist on the left did listen first to what everyone said first before contributing).

Now over the last two years I’ve put on at least 45 professional events, both through my dating companies and through the business networking group I run, with at least a third of these, panel discussions. It’s usually the case where panelists were well mannered and respectful of each other and would allow each other the time to speak even if they didn’t agree and seldom do panelists let their emotions get the better of them.

That was not the case Sunday as the panelists on the right would debate with the other panelists and the audience members. Its ironic that one of the panelists told me after the event that she thought another panelist was overbearing when the audience thought the same of her.

About halfway through the panel it also became apparent to me also that the right side of the panel had never seen, and didn’t know, about the epitome of the Art of Seduction, particularly from a male perspective. Now, let’s get one thing clear, the women on the panel never claimed to be seduction experts, they are fine sex coaches and I wholeheartedly do and will continue to send people to them for sexual technique seminars. But, much like how they treated the men’s seduction community, they were really opinionated about seduction without knowing all the points.

I suspect that their image of the male seducer is the greasy lounge lizard from 70′s and 80′s movies who hits on every women (poorly) with slick lines and manipulative moves, however I cannot confirm that. It certainly sounded like the case where they were disapproving of the very notion of a male seducer and were visualizing male stereotypes that were neither accurate nor current (I’m not saying there aren’t men like that out there, I’m saying that we are also not those and it was not what I, or anyone, save one person, in the audience was describing).

I also found it hypocritical that I was being heckled and interrupted by the most academically trained panelist when I tried to explain that there is a seduction process, a series of loose steps and events that happen during a seduction. “Come on,” she’d mutter as she shock her head disapprovingly. I find this surprising because earlier in the year she gave a presentation at the Dateology Dating and Relationship Symposium citing a scientific paper about the very same thing (up to this point, the only advice the panelists had for the men was just to be honest about what they wanted with women when negotiating to get it – something the men did not understand and wanted to hear the steps of how to do that).

By the end of the discussion, most of the audience’s general and how to questions had been blatantly ignored, although a few men were able to get some discussion going about their own individual situations.

Personally, I felt taken out of context as I wasn’t allowed to complete a thought by the panelists on the right. I find that particularly ironic as they would very likely agree with what I had to say if they bothered to listen.

My experience at the front of the room echos the experience of the men in the audience I’m sorry to say and this was by far not the best panel discussion I’ve put on. I apologize to all the men who expressed their displeasure with the event. This was the first panel discussion we’ve had that went sideways and we’ll make it up to you in the future.

I certainly would be willing to bring them back for talks again, but will be more careful about the topic next time and make sure they speak on something that is their specialty, now that I am clearer on what they know.

If you were there, I, and I’m sure the other panelists and audience, would like to hear what you thought of the event. Please be sure to take a few seconds and add your comment below.

Best,

Ronald Lee
www.manmeetswoman.com
778-999-5094 coach@manmeetswoman.com
…follow me on twitter! http://twitter.com/RonaldMMW

The SINGLE most important thing necessarily when meeting women is to create physical feelings of ATTRACTION (i.e. chemistry) within her as soon as possible. Most men don’t know how (and some don’t even know why) to do this.

This is a topic that I’ll be discussing in my talk on the “Secret Skills to Meeting and Attracting Women for Dating and Relationships” at the YWCA Hotel, downtown Vancouver (733 Beatty Street), tonight at 7:15pm.

Are you coming?

You’ll learn how to create massive attraction with women right away, to make her chase you, in addition to having long term and fulfilling relationships with women.

—Video Example—

Aren’t sure what I mean when I say to create physical feelings of attraction within her? Here is a VIDEO EXAMPLE that I took at the Vancouver Taboo Naughty but Nice Sex show this past weekend.

TABOO VIDEO

Click here to view the embedded video.

I’ll be showing several full length clips from the show during tonight’s talk so you can see for yourself how you can do this with anyone, anytime, anywhere.

See you there!

PS: Can’t make it? I’m having two more video coaching sessions next week where we’ll watch several of these videos and I’ll explain what is happening in them.

The first session is this Sunday, November 15th in the evening and the second is a special Asian Men’s session this Friday, November 20th, in the evening. For location and time, please email me asap to reserve your spot (limited space).

Best,

Ronald Lee
www.manmeetswoman.com
778-999-5094 coach@manmeetswoman.com
…follow me on twitter! http://twitter.com/RonaldMMW

A friend of mine smoked way too much weed at university (I wonder how he got in) and did too much Ecstasy at raves. As a result, he is now a dumb 33 year old. How dumb is he? He is so dumb that we when go to restaurants I always ask for separate checks because it’s beyond his capacity to divide the total by two without a calculator. Sometimes he can’t even divide the total WITH a calculator.

I know a woman who always told me that she thought she was dumb because she never received a proper high school education. I took what she said at face value and for many years I believed her, until I realized one day that she pulled a fast one on me – she’s actually quite intelligent but just has no need to show it. Or perhaps she truly was dumb and unaware in the former half of her life, but today I can spot that her social emotional intelligence is actually quite high and she now has a good understanding of what makes the world go around. In actuality, had she been given the chance to learn, she would have been quite brilliant.

Why do I mention these two examples? In the first, someone who was normal made himself dumber, while in the second, someone with low education made herself wise through experience and maturity. I cite these because they illustrate how people make themselves into who they are today. Neither happened in the past nor what circumstances you find yourself in when you start necessarily dictates your outcome in life.

I see the same thing with seduction. No one, no matter how famous or successful he is with women today, was born with a packet of condoms in his hand. At some point in his life, usually early on, women became of interest, then a passion for him, and he sought to educate himself about the ways of women. Which means he stuck his neck out, took huge risks and got rejected more times than he’d like to count before things started to click for him. He made himself into a seducer.

One common history that I’ve noticed with all successful seducers is that at one point in his life (or more likely, at several points) he was confused about women. The only thing that kept him from joining the ranks of men who can’t get dates I that he didn’t throw his hands up and give up as the majority of men do, he saw this as an opportunity to learn something new to bring him closer to his goal of understanding and seducing women.

I can confidently relate that this is in my life. I attribute who I am and much of my success today to the many times I’ve hit rock bottom in my life (in the double digits in my 20′s alone). Hitting rock bottom is when you reach the lowest point of your life, you feel nothing is going right and you consider giving up – but you don’t. Soon in my latter 20′s, I began looking forward to hitting rock bottom because these became periods when I had tremendous astronomical growth. I also regularly do quarterly self-assessments of myself which helps me progress, but it is my major dips that give me the major paradigm shift I need to deeply self reflect and revise what is going on in my life.

Using the two examples above, I can definitely use the second example of the woman as a metaphor for how I became successful with women.

Given all the rejection and disappointment I had while growing up, I could have given up on women long ago. I guarantee that I’ve been rejected more times by women than the average male and could have decided to like a monk -in solitude- and spend my nights watching internet porn. But instead I took the hits, pushed through the pain, got up and got knocked back down again until I reached a point (five years from when I started), when I realized that I had so much understanding and learned so much from these experiences that I had become quite decent with women.

Today, my life is a much different story. Three women have proposed marriage to me so far, women regularly chase me, I turn down sex, and some of my old girlfriends have come back into my life. I can now control this aspect of my life and can choose what I want out of my relationships.

I’ve also made other men into seducers as well. I’m proud of the fact that I’m the only Attraction Coach in Canada to have clients who are in long term relationships or married. Some of my past students and clients are now teaching men. I’ve been able to help men realize their attractiveness to women and thus have choice in life for their relationships

The take away here is that no one is born seductive to women, however you can choose to make yourself into a seducer by the actions you take in your life. Are you willing to push through the pain and do what it takes or should I get you a calculator?

Best,

Ronald Lee
www.manmeetswoman.com
778-999-5094 coach@manmeetswoman.com
…follow me on twitter! http://twitter.com/RonaldMMW